Dr Hew Len Talks about his first trainings and how her daughter was healed

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Opening Ho’oponopono Prayer:

“I” am the “I”.

“I” come forth from the void into the light,

“I” am the breath that nurtures life,

“I” am that emptiness, that hollowness beyond all consciousness,

The “I”, the Id, the All. “I” draw my bow of rainbows across the waters,

The continuum of minds with matters. “I” am the incoming and outgoing of breath, The invisible, untouchable breeze, The undefinable atom of creation.

“I” am the “I”. 

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The First Ho’oponopono Training of Dr. Ihaleakala

Miss Katz:  Hello my friends you know I travel all over the world and everybody asks we need Ihaleakala in. So I am bringing Ihaleakala to you. Hope you like that. So welcome Ihaleakala.

Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len: Thank you very much.

Miss Katz: We have lots of questions for you, and some come from my own students, some are the questions that are repeated, so, that, first I would like to ask you, how you, what did you think the first time you went to the Ho’oponopono training? A lot of people say what? Because I say I thank you, I love you. What would you tell  those people?

Dr. Hew Len: Well I think I lasted only the first break. And when I sat in the class of 40 people, “you see the Chinese man sitting on the table?” I said to myself, “Oh my God, I m in the wrong place!” So after, during the first break, I went home. 

How many training take to get all the Ho’oponopono Information

Miss Katz: You know some people now hear us say these things, they also want to get up and leave. So how many trainings it took you to, say, really get all the information.

 Dr. Hew Len: Only about 4 or 5. 

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How was it to work with Morrnah Simeona?

Miss Katz: 4 or 5. And then working with Morrnah. How was it? 

Dr. Hew Len: It was pretty easy to work with her, because I think most of the time, if not all of the time when she was training, she wasn’t working on me. It took me years to realize that what my job is, is just to work on myself and not be concerned about anybody.

The healing of Dr. Ihaleaka’s Daughter

Miss Katz: Sometimes people ask you this, maybe what convinced you the most was that situation with your daughter, on the skin rash and the problems?

Dr. Hew Len: That was, seeing her rash leave almost in a month convinced me that maybe I should be hanging around with this lady. 

What was the secret of Morrnah to make people feel better?

Miss Katz: And many times you tell us that, you know, this is not what I learned at school that I got to, you know, in school I learned that you have to pay attention, showing compassion for people and things. So what is it that is next to Morrnah that didn’t do that but suddenly people feel better? 

Dr. Hew Len: I don t know. I didn’t know then but I know now that Morrnah was doing her cleaning.

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Dr. Hew Len talks about the Law of Attraction

Miss Katz: I see. Ihaleakala. A law is going on right now, well they call it the law of attraction. So what is that law of attraction, or the natural laws that we maybe are not aware of but that we can work with?

Dr. Hew Len: First of all, only God knows. And God could be called the I AM, could be called anything but I prefer to call the divinity: “I”. OK? So since I came to the realization that only God knows, then I should be in a relationship with the divinity and the relationship is taking 100% responsibility. Whatever was going on in me that I experienced just might be the problem. 

Dr. Ihaleakala believes in God?

Miss Katz: Since you were a kid you believe in God. or always believe in God? 

Dr. Hew Len: When I was a little kid I could see things. Umm, I could see things that for me it was natural, so I would play with these things. And then I went, I remember, like either second or third grade, I shared that with the class in “Show and Tell” and it was not the thing to do. 

Miss Katz: The teacher didn’t like it at all? Did they want to “label” you or…? 

Dr. Hew Len: No, they called my mother. 

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Dr. Hew Len and her teenage daughter

Miss Katz: They called your mother…(chuckle) Umm, Ihaleakala, so how did that work with raising a teenage daughter, you know when you did that change your relationship before and after the Ho’oponopono? 

Dr. Hew Len: Yes, I realized that my children came into my life only because God has given me, gave me one more chance to make amendments with him. So I could see them as God created them, pure in heart. But the only way I could do that was to let go of the world. Whatever judgments, whatever thought I had with them that’s something I need to let go of. And I did. I worked on it and I continue to work on it now. 

What are the parents in the life of a child?

Miss Katz: I remember once you told me, you know our kids, you told us that in the class, you know our kids are not here for us to tell them what to do. They are here so they don’t, you know, fall in the swimming pool or willing to burn with fire. 

Dr. Hew Len: I think what is important to realize is really, children come to be in our lives is because Divinity says I am going to send them, and they are gonna bug you and bug you, and it’s a reminder you that you should let them go, and give them back to me. And so, with my children, every time I do the cleaning, it is about letting them go back to God. God created them and is the only one who knows what’s best for them. So my job as a parent is to cut my ties with them and give them back to God. 

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How to do Ho’oponopono 24 hours a day

Miss Katz: OK. So one of the questions you repeat is that how can you do this work 24 hours a day. I’m thinking of that because when we tell people that you can do the cleaning while you sleep, plus you can talk, as parents, you can talk to people like your kids, your spouses while they sleep. So could you share with us? 

Dr. Hew Len: What’s the important thing is to realize that all your problems are in you. So if I visit with somebody and they are telling me that they have a headache, then the question is what is going on in me that I experience then telling me that they had a headache. So the thing has to be ceaseless. You cannot stop doing the cleaning. The other thing is, there is a part of us called the inner child which the Hawaiian called the “Unihipili”. That part of you is like a computer bank. You need to work with that part of you, to re-educate it so it will do the thing for you automatically. 

The work of the Inner Child the Unihipili

Miss Katz: You know, since the “Unihipili” is, you always say, our best partner. We are looking for the correct partner, there it is. If you can tell us a little bit more about it because I know “Unihipili” is a manifestor also in our life. He’s the one who makes the connection when we do this work. 

Dr. Hew Len: Yes, so the subconscious, the “Unihipili”, is where all the information is stored since the beginning of creation. So, if you are looking for a problem it stored as information in the subconscious. So, you have to be willing to teach the subconscious how to let that go; how to let go of memory replaying problems. So I spent, as you know, you come into my area, I would be sitting down on the floor and doing my cleaning and then also talking to the subconscious, “This is what we are gonna do today, so we are only here to clean. And so I would ask you humbly humbly to help me with the cleaning.” 

Miss Katz: When did you start really communicating with this part of your finding out…uh… 

Dr. Hew Len: At the beginning. 

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How can we understand Ho’oponopono?

Miss Katz: You know, Uh, because many times you tell me, “I don t know how you guys do it. You go out without cleaning.” But we do. Because we don’t know better. So, in your case how would you say to people maybe, you know, we cannot see, we cannot hear. I personally don’t have any doubt about how this works but, some people are still stagnating and wanting to understand this stuff. 

Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len: You cannot understand this. Understanding is knowledge. And what we are looking for is wisdom and only God has the wisdom. So for me, for example, coming to this place with a beautiful house and a beautiful property. Before coming, I would talk to the property, say to the property, the place: “I am coming, and I am only coming to make amends. I am not here to have, to do a video I am not here to do anything. So please, let me know if there is anything I need to make amends for.” And I began the cleaning. Before and while I am here as you and I are talking as my cleaning is going on. And when we get rid of the goal the cleaning will be going on ceaselessly. Because this property is like a human being, it suffers, it has a longing, and so my job is to remove anything in me that causes the property to suffer. Yes.


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